tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post3288331574191914134..comments2023-10-08T03:29:16.941-05:00Comments on Aaron Polson: The Chilling Effect on Internet AnonymityAaron Polsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15173267932358617304noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-42720781228939029302011-09-30T15:02:51.075-05:002011-09-30T15:02:51.075-05:00Damn Katey. You always school me.Damn Katey. You always school me.Aaron Polsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15173267932358617304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-2609019256867948012011-09-30T14:50:48.521-05:002011-09-30T14:50:48.521-05:00The thing that people blissfully ignore about all ...The thing that people blissfully ignore about all rights and freedoms is that they are to be exercised at will -- EXCEPT when they infringe upon the rights of others. That's the deal. That's what even the staunchest libertarian must realize the government exists for. Protection of EVERYONE's rights.<br /><br />Anonymous posting... I do understand the need for safety. I grew up relatively sheltered, but my husband grew up in one of the biggest cities in India without a lot of money. He's way more paranoid than I, and with good reason. So I do think people should be allowed to choose what makes them personally comfortable, but I also think people who post anonymously must be taken with a grain of salt. Not to say written off completely -- which, to be frank, I tend to do myself.<br /><br />When it's really annoying is when they can actually affect the outcome of something -- a rating, a decision of some kind. And I support the right of all private companies and individuals to ban anonymous comments wholeheartedly, and feel much better participating at places where they do.Kateyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05727622678452936037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-27173945248156427472011-09-30T02:20:21.112-05:002011-09-30T02:20:21.112-05:00Back again and posting with my google account inst...Back again and posting with my google account instead of anonymously. :)<br /><br />@Daniel, I see your point. In an ideal world one would be able to state their opinion without fear of reprisals. But we don't live in an ideal world, we live in a world filled with irrational, unreasonable people who take a difference of opinion as a personal attack. <br /><br />We also have people on the extreme ends of an issue who think that is okay to murder someone to support their cause. In 1990, the Animal Liberation Front murdered the Univ. of Tenn. Dean of the College on Veterinary Medicine. Anti-abortionists murdered a doctor in Pensacola, FL. <br /><br />Most recently, a woman in Oklahoma tried to kill another woman with her SUV, because the woman looked like Casey Anthony. She was going to see justice done, despite the fact that Casey Anthony was still in jail in Florida at the time.<br /><br />This is not a venue for hot issues, so there is no need for anonymous posting here. But my local newspaper, the fur flies and some of the people are crazy, scary people. I post under a pseudonym there, because I don't want them to come knocking on my door.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02228827774140351030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-5979949826105084962011-09-29T21:35:21.876-05:002011-09-29T21:35:21.876-05:00Brady - Not at all. Your other post (there was ano...Brady - Not at all. Your other post (there was another post?) didn't show. I thought you were joking...<br /><br />Seriously. You can have all the Melrose Place fanfic you want. <br /><br />Daniel - John Hancock would love your attitude. Big signatures, people. BIG.Aaron Polsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15173267932358617304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-25901438196385516112011-09-29T20:04:16.766-05:002011-09-29T20:04:16.766-05:00Should I take your cryptic-ness (crypticity? crypt...Should I take your cryptic-ness (crypticity? cryptitude?) to indicate that I did indeed get bah-leted? Fair enough. Anonymous articulated my point better anyway.<br /><br />As I understand it, anonymity is a pretty crucial deal in the fan-fiction community, and has to be in order to protect against potential claims of copyright infringement.<br /><br />And <b>no one</b> can stop me from publishing my <i>Melrose Place</i> fanfic.bradyhttp://brady-golden.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-44319426487860093412011-09-29T19:52:35.288-05:002011-09-29T19:52:35.288-05:00Evening, Aaron.
It's a flat-out bad trend for...Evening, Aaron.<br /><br />It's a flat-out bad trend for culture. Anonymous idiocy (and it takes so many terrible forms, from sexism to racism to ageism and every cultural hang-up in between) weakens a strong democracy.<br /><br />It's obviously a personal choice for me, but I think people should have to sign what they write. Sign it, and own it. <br /><br />Anonymous posting doesn't serve progress. It serves chaos and anger and hatred. <br /><br />And it's so EASY to walk away from.<br /><br />Not optimal. Not optimal at all...Daniel Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17773792243682789399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-66154189806148503372011-09-29T19:10:06.299-05:002011-09-29T19:10:06.299-05:00Brady - Hmmmm... indeed.
Anon - Very good point...Brady - Hmmmm... indeed. <br /> <br />Anon - Very good points. Maybe I'm just a chickensh*t and avoid the hot buttons online. We can all agree on puppies, right? Everyone likes puppies...Aaron Polsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15173267932358617304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-28364235995433620592011-09-29T14:36:34.133-05:002011-09-29T14:36:34.133-05:00You make a good point about trolls using the cover...You make a good point about trolls using the cover of anonymity to be mean and nasty.<br /><br />My concern is internet safety. In the early days of the internet and I think this is true more now than it was then, the advice was to never give out personal information over the internet. Criminals are becoming more and more sophisticated. We've seen them use facebook to identify potential targets for burglary. I'm sure it is being used for identity theft. And then there are the predators looking for prey.<br /><br />And don't forget the wackos who will find you and physically hurt you, if they don't like what you say. Take a stand on a hot issue like abortion or gay marriage or saying the pledge of allegiance and include your name and address, and you may just end up having some nutjob taking a potshot at you. <br /><br />There needs to be a better way of handling trolls without putting oneself in harms way. <br /><br />I have a google account and you know who I am, but I find it amusing to post this anonymously. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-20060603559560152032011-09-29T14:30:38.614-05:002011-09-29T14:30:38.614-05:00Hm. Did my comment get deleted, or did I just fail...Hm. Did my comment get deleted, or did I just fail to post? If the former, I'm sorry if I said something that caused offense. If the latter, well, it probably wasn't too interesting to begin with.bradyhttp://brady-golden.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-19611224441665775692011-09-29T13:13:45.210-05:002011-09-29T13:13:45.210-05:00Alan - I'm moving to that perfect world. ;)
V...Alan - I'm moving to that perfect world. ;)<br /><br />Vyrdolak - So true. <br /><br />Sam - Funny... The ignoring trick works with my high school students, too.Aaron Polsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15173267932358617304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-17632651583958904552011-09-29T12:55:36.684-05:002011-09-29T12:55:36.684-05:00Sometimes the trolls are funny (usually not intent...Sometimes the trolls are funny (usually not intentionally on their part) whenever there is article about a new archeology find, its fun to scroll down to the moronic Darwin and religion debates. And its also miraculous how the Tea party type propaganda can slipped into just about any news article even one about baking cookies. <br /><br />The thing about Trolls is they only have the power you give them. when my four year old starts throwing “poo poo” in every sentence, ignoring him makes him stop faster than any possible reaction on my part.S. Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05488636944245636922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-8406290985707320882011-09-29T12:18:00.520-05:002011-09-29T12:18:00.520-05:00Invariably, the more loudly someone is proclaiming...Invariably, the more loudly someone is proclaiming their "right to free speech," the more egregiously they're abusing that right. Anonymous speech needs no protection, since no one need fear any consequences for making it. It's only individuals with the courage to take responsibility for their words and publicly stand up for them that need protection. No one will ever suppress "anonymous." Anonymous Internet venues <i>always</i> become troll-havens very, very quickly.Vyrdolakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03041137622749077226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-67573848019166080672011-09-29T11:29:19.153-05:002011-09-29T11:29:19.153-05:00In a perfect world this sort of censure wouldn'...In a perfect world this sort of censure wouldn't be needed. I'm all for folks having to ID themselves out in the Wild West of the Internet. <br /><br />I'll bet you that over 90% of the trolls spewing hurtful or hateful language wouldn't dare do that in a public forum.Alan W. Davidsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17067022519729701245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-61977283294728441282011-09-29T11:10:37.913-05:002011-09-29T11:10:37.913-05:00Brendan - Now you've hurt my feewings and I...Brendan - Now you've hurt my feewings and I'm going to go cry in the corner. ;)<br /><br />Gef - Scary. Too scary.Aaron Polsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15173267932358617304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-32376782341484867432011-09-29T10:55:22.203-05:002011-09-29T10:55:22.203-05:00Trolls using fake names don't frighten me near...Trolls using fake names don't frighten me nearly as much as the trolls who use their real ones. I've seen some particularly abhorrent stuff from people on Facebook, and if those accounts were fake then they did an overly-elaborate job of it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15675220785164388203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-41291993275921321102011-09-29T10:42:01.161-05:002011-09-29T10:42:01.161-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Brendan P. Myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02152826197748921049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5604033530537822263.post-79221309695988655152011-09-29T10:41:17.893-05:002011-09-29T10:41:17.893-05:00Google+ and Facebook want to end Internet anonymit...Google+ and Facebook want to end Internet anonymity only because it will increase their own market share, as sites use one or the other for authentication.<br /><br />I'm a fan of Internet anonymity, regardless of what the trolls or racists or Nazis have to say. I think it's important for us to know and be reminded every day that there are still people like this out there. <br /><br />Sending them underground won't change the way they think. And because someone's 'feewings' might be hurt is the worst reason of all.Brendan P. Myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02152826197748921049noreply@blogger.com